VN Ren'Py Origin Story [v0.4.0] [JDOR]

[Jericho85]

Evelyn has absolutely no ground to stand on, with any of MC escapades. No matter with who.

you guys really don’t quit with this shit do you?

Sorry that Evelyn triggers you so much, but there is nothing wrong with Evelyn or her power. Get over it.

 

[Rehwyn]

she only gave him permission to fuck the sisterhood. not anyone else yet, explicitly. she saw Moonsong asking MC to fuck Cat, so she might forgive it when she sees it in her dream, but other girls might be a stretch.
she allowed him to fuck the sisterhood because they are his fantasies, and she doesn't feel like they would steal him from her. it's just sex, and she, herself, indirectly fucks other people on a daily basis, so she might feel it's ok as long as it's just sex. Moonsong even called Evelyn immediately once feelings were involved, so Evelyn feels they are safe. but real girls from school might be a completely different story as feelings could quickly be involved.
we will see how she deals with Amber's feelings for MC. if Evelyn is willing to share with Amber, then she is on board for a harem/polygamy relationship.

To be clear, CNM doesn't necessarily mean polyamory or carte blanc pass to have sex with anyone, so on that we agree. Giving him explicit permission to have sex with the Sisterhood still technically is CNM, which was what I was referring to for now (though technically MC and Evelyn aren't in a relationship yet either). Definitely makes things much easier for him in terms of figuring out and growing his power compared to if she expected fidelity following sex. I do think there's many hints a form of polyamory is where a relationship with Evelyn could end up however (particularly with Amber, who seems to potentially already have a crush on Evelyn).

And let's not forget that this is a harem(ish) game per the dev. To paraphrase some comments they've shared:

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We'll almost certainly find out in Chapter 5 some more about how Evelyn feels regarding the rest since (dev preview spoilers) Evelyn will have significant presence in Chapter 5 and 6, MC will be given options of if they want to pursue (or continue pursuing) Evelyn, Amber, and/or Moonsong in Chapter 5, and there's going to be an Evelyn scene with 4 different versions (likely where you get to enjoy the lingerie choice from Chapter 1).

 

[MAGO-DAG]

she only gave him permission to fuck the sisterhood. not anyone else yet, explicitly. she saw Moonsong asking MC to fuck Cat, so she might forgive it when she sees it in her dream, but other girls might be a stretch.
she allowed him to fuck the sisterhood because they are his fantasies, and she doesn't feel like they would steal him from her. it's just sex, and she, herself, indirectly fucks other people on a daily basis, so she might feel it's ok as long as it's just sex. Moonsong even called Evelyn immediately once feelings were involved, so Evelyn feels they are safe. but real girls from school might be a completely different story as feelings could quickly be involved.
we will see how she deals with Amber's feelings for MC. if Evelyn is willing to share with Amber, then she is on board for a harem/polygamy relationship.

The thing is, Evelyn is more of a friend than a girlfriend. Evelyn and Mc spent more time as best friends and always supported each other, and throughout the story they began to realize that they were more than just friends.

so Evelin had no right not to give Mc's permission to sleep with other girls, now that he unexpectedly chose her to take her virginity first instead of Moonsong, she is now more loyal to Mc and allowed Moonsong to join. I don’t think that now Evelyn will be against Mc fucking other girls, because she understands that he chose her and as for Amber, perhaps she will be even happier than upset. Evelyn gives Mc freedom when she realizes that he also has some kind of superpower.She has always been superpowered, and it’s not up to her to decide how Mc will live when he has already acquired some part of his superpower, knowing that he lived an almost closed life among the superheroes, so the story will be even more interesting)))

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

you guys really don’t quit with this shit do you?

Sorry that Evelyn triggers you so much, but there is nothing wrong with Evelyn or her power. Get over it.

I haven't played since first drop. I don't even know what any of these issues are that apparently has panties in a twist on both sides.

 

[Jericho85]

I haven't played since first drop. I don't even know what any of these issues are that apparently has panties in a twist on both sides.

Just some scrubs who are offended by Evelyns power. They see it as “cheating” because they fundamentally don’t understand how her power works and it makes them super insecure. It’s an exceptionally stupid complaint. Only slightly less stupid than that guy who was mad about Evelyn masturbating with a dildo.

 

[Rehwyn]

yeah lying beside your "girlfriend" in bed while she gets fucked to high haven and back in her sleep and still asking for permission to fuck other girls

how is that kink called again

Man is it going to be funny watching people bitching about this now try to resolve the cognitive dissonance if/when MC gets the same power and either:

1. Literally never touches anyone again with any part of his body
2. Picks other guys and has to experience them fuck people he's not fucking
3. Picks other girls and has to experience them getting fucked by other guys
4. Picks a girl he's with and learns a whole new meaning of "go fuck yourself" (or sees them with other harem members)

And if he never gets the same power, he's probably not with Evelyn so he shouldn't have an opinion.

Best case scenario in my opinion is coordinating with Evelyn and taking notes to compare later. It'll be like watching VR porn together to find new sex ideas.

 

[HiP1]

To be clear, CNM doesn't necessarily mean polyamory or carte blanc pass to have sex with anyone, so on that we agree. Giving him explicit permission to have sex with the Sisterhood still technically is CNM, which was what I was referring to for now (though technically MC and Evelyn aren't in a relationship yet either). Definitely makes things much easier for him in terms of figuring out and growing his power compared to if she expected fidelity following sex. I do think there's many hints a form of polyamory is where a relationship with Evelyn could end up however (particularly with Amber, who seems to potentially already have a crush on Evelyn).

And let's not forget that this is a harem(ish) game per the dev. To paraphrase some comments they've shared:

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We'll almost certainly find out in Chapter 5 some more about how Evelyn feels regarding the rest since (dev preview spoilers) Evelyn will have significant presence in Chapter 5 and 6, MC will be given options of if they want to pursue (or continue pursuing) Evelyn, Amber, and/or Moonsong in Chapter 5, and there's going to be an Evelyn scene with 4 different versions (likely where you get to enjoy the lingerie choice from Chapter 1).

relationships in the US are so weird
in Europe, or at least in France specifically, once you fuck (and for some, even once you kiss), you are implicitly in a relationship with your partner. you can discuss the details of it afterwards, like exclusivity, openness, etc. you pretty much have to explicitly say before hand that it's just for sex if you don't want to be in a relationship, to avoid any misunderstanding or drama. In the US, it seems to be the opposite. default being casual sex, and needing serious talks to define and label.
the game is clearly setup as an implicit harem that MC will have to define sooner or later. and Evelyn and Amber are at least hinted at being open for a throuple, even if Evelyn doesn't seem to like girls for now, while Amber is clearly bi with a preference for girls with the only guy she is attracted to being MC (looks an awful lot like Maya-Josy from DIK).

The thing is, Evelyn is more of a friend than a girlfriend. Evelyn and Mc spent more time as best friends and always supported each other, and throughout the story they began to realize that they were more than just friends.

so Evelin had no right not to give Mc's permission to sleep with other girls, now that he unexpectedly chose her to take her virginity first instead of Moonsong, she is now more loyal to Mc and allowed Moonsong to join. I don’t think that now Evelyn will be against Mc fucking other girls, because she understands that he chose her and as for Amber, perhaps she will be even happier than upset. Evelyn gives Mc freedom when she realizes that he also has some kind of superpower.She has always been superpowered, and it’s not up to her to decide how Mc will live when he has already acquired some part of his superpower, knowing that he lived an almost closed life among the superheroes, so the story will be even more interesting)))

after they fucked, MC and Evelyn didn't have time at all to discuss their relationship status.
but she clearly behaves like a girlfriend, and the other girls acknowledge her as such after seeing the new interactions and behavior. MC doesn't deny it either.
Us players will have a choice, for sure, though.

and she does have a right for some kind of permission. she can't force MC to do as she says, but she can refuse to have sex with him afterwards and she can also change their relationship back to friends or cut him off completely as a consequence... she gave him permission even before knowing about his power. she wanted to make him happy by giving him the freedom to realize his own fantasies, after MC realized her fantasies and more. it doesn't mean those fantasies will necessarily happen for sure. and it's just sex for now. once it grows into sex with feelings, she might want to change her mind. even though it is a harem game, we don't know how the drama will unfold to make it happen.

yeah lying beside your "girlfriend" in bed while she gets fucked to high haven and back in her sleep and still asking for permission to fuck other girls

how is that kink called again

if she is your girlfriend, you can ask her to use her power on you only. or on the other girls you fuck with her permission...
and her having sex in her dreams is pretty much like having IRL girls having fantasies in their dreams. if they dream about fucking celebrities like Brad Pitt or Henry Cavill, it doesn't mean they cheat on you.
moreover, Evelyn doesn't control the scrying, and ended up taking advantage of it for MC, and "pretending" to do it with MC during her dreams.
others mentionned that it might just be an insecurity issues if you can't deal with that. especially for a character in a game.

 

[Jericho85]

Evelyn doesn't control the scrying, and ended up taking advantage of it for MC, and "pretending" to do it with MC during her dreams.
others mentionned that it might just be an insecurity issues if you can't deal with that. especially for a character in a game.

Evelyn is basically a girl who studied how other girls deepthroat through sensory voyeurism, and then practiced the technique using dildos to please the boy she liked. The end result is MC now has a girlfriend who can lick his balls while his 14 inch dong is down her throat... All with her being intensely devoted to her boyfriend and never even considered having another dude's cock anywhere near her lips.

if she is your girlfriend, you can ask her to use her power on you only.

I mean sure, if you're a possessive, controlling boyfriend.

 

[Rehwyn]

relationships in the US are so weird
in Europe, or at least in France specifically, once you fuck (and for some, even once you kiss), you are implicitly in a relationship with your partner. you can discuss the details of it afterwards, like exclusivity, openness, etc. you pretty much have to explicitly say before hand that it's just for sex if you don't want to be in a relationship, to avoid any misunderstanding or drama. In the US, it seems to be the opposite. default being casual sex, and needing serious talks to define and label.
the game is clearly setup as an implicit harem that MC will have to define sooner or later. and Evelyn and Amber are at least hinted at being open for a throuple, even if Evelyn doesn't seem to like girls for now, while Amber is clearly bi with a preference for girls with the only guy she is attracted to being MC (looks an awful lot like Maya-Josy from DIK).

It honestly varies a lot depending on location, personal beliefs, age, etc. in the US. I've been married for a while now, but at least when I was dating I'd try to have a talk early (usually first 1-2 dates) about where I'd eventually like to be in the relationship (am I looking for something casual, something long-term exclusive, etc) but not really expect exclusivity until we'd been dating maybe 2-3 months (and contrary to popular media and AVNs, most people here aren't having sex on the first date, at least in my experience).

That said, there's plenty of people looking for casual sex too and on the opposite end of the spectrum people that due to religious or other beliefs don't plan to have sex until marriage. That's one reason I always tried to discuss early where I eventually was interested in getting to make sure we were on the same page.

Tying this back to the game, if MC declines Moonsong, MC and Evelyn are in an unusual spot because they've had sex, but had essentially no discussions whatsoever about any relationship between them or what either want out of relationships in general. So MC has very good reason to believe the Evelyn is interested in a relationship, but anything beyond that is somewhat guesswork other than what she's said regarding the Sisterhood, "wanting him to be happy", and what he's heard second-hand from Amber. Since it's likely a sensitive matter, personally if I were in his position, I'd keep things in my pants (Sisterhood and tests at their request to figure out my power being the exception here) until I can talk with her in more detail, which thankfully sounds like will probably happen soon.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

after they fucked, MC and Evelyn didn't have time at all to discuss their relationship status.
but she clearly behaves like a girlfriend, and the other girls acknowledge her as such after seeing the new interactions and behavior. MC doesn't deny it either.
Us players will have a choice, for sure, though.

and she does have a right for some kind of permission. she can't force MC to do as she says, but she can refuse to have sex with him afterwards and she can also change their relationship back to friends or cut him off completely as a consequence... she gave him permission even before knowing about his power. she wanted to make him happy by giving him the freedom to realize his own fantasies, after MC realized her fantasies and more. it doesn't mean those fantasies will necessarily happen for sure. and it's just sex for now. once it grows into sex with feelings, she might want to change her mind. even though it is a harem game, we don't know how the drama will unfold to make it happen

From friendship to love, it’s very close. they are always close together, and always support, initially they were even best friends, and over time, some began to notice that Mc and Evelyn could be couples, they even talked about whether they finally slept together, and some even joked about their intimacy.

As far as I remember, Evelyn knows some things from sexual cases, judging by her superpower, so she was surprised when Mc wanted to have sex with her, taking into account the fact that he has no experience at all, and she always wanted him. so what am I really talking about, whatever the consequences between Mc and Evelyn, I am sure that they will not break up, especially Evelyn will not feel jealous of him, due to the fact that with her permission he will fuck other girls, the question is different, Mc her friend and her love.

Mc may not yet fully realize this, but the fact that Evelyn loves Mc most of all is a fact, and this despite the fact that she allows him to have fun with other girls, this is the least thing to worry about, Mc needs to worry most about his first love and friend, because, despite the fact that her power torments her because of the vision and horny, she still waited for Mc

I think you're overthinking things a bit. Also I disagree with MAGO that they're more friends than boyfriend/girlfriend. I think after the sex scene, all the cards are on the table. He knows she's crazy about him and she knows he's crazy about her, and literally every other character can see it too, especially Amber (since she had to listen to her best friend simp for MC for 6 years).

My point is that, despite how some people here say that Evelyn's power is still a betrayal in relation to Mc. even when she was tormented by these things, she did not give in to these desires and still waited for Mc. friendship between a guy and a girl is a very complicated thing in reality, I think you know what I mean. as you said, after that they revealed the card and realized that they loved each other

 

[Rehwyn]

yes i have insecurity issues, but that changes nothing about the facts presented in game, just say you like that stuff and its okay

Evelyn essentially has super realistic VR voyeur porn dreams my dude, against her will. If you've ever played the path where she's angry at you, she explains in pretty good detail how much that actually sucked, especially before she learned how to pick who she's riding. Would you really consider being forced to view porn when she's asleep the same thing as cheating (especially since she and MC aren't in a relationship to cheat on in the first place)?

But yeah, I do get joy out of seeing my romantic partner being happy, and if Evelyn has found a way to use her power that makes her happy (such as blowing MC's mind the first time they have sex) without breaking any promises or relationship commitments, than more power to her.

 

[HiP1]

yes i have insecurity issues, but that changes nothing about the facts presented in game, just say you like that stuff and its okay

sorry, it's not my thing. i don't like NTR, but Evelyn's situation is not NTR. it's definitely a grey area, blurring the lines, if you are really against NTR.
and they are not in a exclusive relationship yet... it's just sex for now. she can do what she wants until they have a serious talk.

Evelyn is basically a girl who studied how other girls deepthroat through sensory voyeurism, and then practiced the technique using dildos to please the boy she liked. The end result is MC now has a girlfriend who can lick his balls while his 14 inch dong is down her throat... All with her being intensely devoted to her boyfriend and never even considered having another dude's cock anywhere near her lips.

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I mean sure, if you're a possessive, controlling boyfriend.

I agree, her situation made her into a very open and devoted partner. she could have developed a voyeurism kink because of it too. and choosing MC to feel his side of the love making could increase her feelings and strengthen their bond too honestly.

if the guy she is with discussed exclusivity in the relationship, and finds it uncomfortable, he can ask. it can be a boundary for him. doesn't mean he is controlling or possessive. he can't force her though. forcing her would be the controlling line to cross.

It honestly varies a lot depending on location, personal beliefs, age, etc. in the US. I've been married for a while now, but at least when I was dating I'd try to have a talk early (usually first 1-2 dates) about where I'd eventually like to be in the relationship (am I looking for something casual, something long-term exclusive, etc) but not really expect exclusivity until we'd been dating maybe 2-3 months (and contrary to popular media and AVNs, most people here aren't having sex on the first date, at least in my experience).

That said, there's plenty of people looking for casual sex too and on the opposite end of the spectrum people that due to religious or other beliefs don't plan to have sex until marriage. That's one reason I always tried to discuss early where I eventually was interested in getting to make sure we were on the same page.

Tying this back to the game, if MC declines Moonsong, MC and Evelyn are in an unusual spot because they've had sex, but had essentially no discussions whatsoever about any relationship between them or what either want out of relationships in general. So MC has very good reason to believe the Evelyn is interested in a relationship, but anything beyond that is somewhat guesswork other than what she's said regarding the Sisterhood, "wanting him to be happy", and what he's heard second-hand from Amber. Since it's likely a sensitive matter, personally if I were in his position, I'd keep things in my pants (Sisterhood and tests at their request to figure out my power being the exception here) until I can talk with her in more detail, which thankfully sounds like will probably happen soon.

Unless you have known the other person for years, you don't really know them, so you can't really know that early where you want to go with them. you only know what you want out of the dating game in the moment. and honestly, it happens quite often that a serious first or second date turns into casual sex, a one night stand, after getting to know them a little bit.
and I agree with you, if MC chooses Evelyn for his first time, then it should be a very high priority to figure things out asap, especially because of their close years long friendship that also affects Amber and Frasier.
and everyone expected them to end up together for years, so that's probably why most of the girls in MC's life held back. that talk pretty much unlocks all the other relationships.

From friendship to love, it’s very close. they are always close together, and always support, initially they were even best friends, and over time, some began to notice that Mc and Evelyn could be couples, they even talked about whether they finally slept together, and some even joked about their intimacy.

As far as I remember, Evelyn knows some things from sexual cases, judging by her superpower, so she was surprised when Mc wanted to have sex with her, taking into account the fact that he has no experience at all, and she always wanted him. so what am I really talking about, whatever the consequences between Mc and Evelyn, I am sure that they will not break up, especially Evelyn will not feel jealous of him, due to the fact that with her permission he will fuck other girls, the question is different, Mc her friend and her love.

Mc may not yet fully realize this, but the fact that Evelyn loves Mc most of all is a fact, and this despite the fact that she allows him to have fun with other girls, this is the least thing to worry about, Mc needs to worry most about his first love and friend, because, despite the fact that her power torments her because of the vision and horny, she still waited for Mc



My point is that, despite how some people here say that Evelyn's power is still a betrayal in relation to Mc. even when she was tormented by these things, she did not give in to these desires and still waited for Mc. friendship between a guy and a girl is a very complicated thing in reality, I think you know what I mean. as you said, after that they revealed the card and realized that they loved each other

yeah, their bond is very strong and important. he needs to resolve it soon to avoid losing her.

Evelyn clearly has real feelings for MC, but he has not demonstrated any kind of feelings beyond being attracted to her sexually and caring about her as a long time friend. the dev has been careful to avoid it as much as possible. surely to prepare for the real talk where the player will still be able to reject her or keep it as a friends with benefits type of thing, or laying the foundation of the harem.

your right shes the victim once she learned to control it she immediately stopped using it for that because it sucks soooo much.

And MC having sex with Moonsong first is just the MC being considered of Evelyn he wouldn't want her first time to suck and be awkward, so he got that out of the way with Moonsong.

MC fucking around with every girl he meets is basically the rule of equivalent exchange in full swing he cant let Evelyn do all the work in the relationship he's just holding up his side of the bargain and is training for Ev as to not disappoint her.

and now please do the bit about telling us why Parker fucking a random waiter at MCs Birthday party is a good thing.

your point could work if we didn't have the real thoughts of MC when making that choice. unfortunately, we already know that he didn't consider Evelyn's well being at all if he choose Moonsong for his first time. he only does it out of lust in the moment and nothing else. there was no thought about getting good to improve Evelyn's experience later.
and it's confirmed during Amber and MC's talk afterwards.

Parker is single, she can fuck who she wants, dude. She cares a lot about MC as a son, she's likely very attracted to him because it's an AVN, she might even do it all because she was in love with MC's dad and find a huge part of him in a grown up MC...
she doesn't owe MC anything as far as her love and sex life goes. if she wants to relieve herself with a random guy, that's her business. she even pushed for MC and Evelyn to fuck and get together...
so you're the type that wants exclusivity for life from all the LIs in a game even though nothing happened with their MC yet?

 

[Rehwyn]

so you're the type that wants exclusivity for life from all the LIs in a game even though nothing happened with their MC yet?

That's certainly what I seems like to me, even exclusivity in their mind.

yes i have insecurity issues, but that changes nothing about the facts presented in game, just say you like that stuff and its okay

Clearly no one here is going to convince you to change your position if you have unresolved insecurities about the matter. Honestly, if women having sexual histories before committing to a relationship bothers you, that's what Safe Mode is for. And if Evelyn's VR dream porn bothers you so much, then just don't pursue her as a romantic partner. And if that's not enough, perhaps this game is not for you, in which case, why are you still here?

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Played the update and liked a lot. There is some funny mixture of The Boys with DC heroes vibe in this game.

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All in all i am hooked up and looking forward to the next update.



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[HornyyPussy]

Played the update and liked a lot. There is some funny mixture of The Boys with DC heroes vibe in this game.

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All in all i am hooked up and looking forward to the next update.



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I'm back bitches!

Yeah, Lady Steel climbed to 2nd place for me in this update.

I have no doubt that MS can help Amber, it would be monumentally cruel of Jaq if she couldn't

Haven't seen the last couple of seasons of The Boys yet, is there a similar scene like the Ant man scene from this update?

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

I'm back bitches!

Yeah, Lady Steel climbed to 2nd place for me in this update.

I have no doubt that MS can help Amber, it would be monumentally cruel of Jaq if she couldn't

Haven't seen the last couple of seasons of The Boys yet, is there a similar scene like the Ant man scene from this update?

In season 3, i think, there is a similar situation to what happened at the end of the Steel & Lake versus 3 superpowered rapists bar fight.

I hope Moonsong can do something about Amber situation but considering this game does not shy away from killing characters and hard themes i am not completely sure.

 

[HornyyPussy]

In season 3, i think, there is a similar situation to what happened at the end of the Steel & Lake versus 3 superpowered rapists bar fight.

I hope Moonsong can do something about Amber situation but considering this game does not shy away from killing characters and hard themes i am not completely sure.

Jaq would be lynched, tarred and feathered and made to walk the plank if he killed of Amber

 

[e6mill]

lynched, tarred and feathered and made to walk the plank

Not in that order.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

In Amber's case i was thinking less about death in more about her being forced into doing something she wouldn't normaly do, like in case Moonsong fails to help her but she gets approached by one of the villains who can actually help her. With the prospect of being sent away to Tokyo and her depression getting worse i could see Amber accepting such deal.

But that is just some wild musing of myself.

 

[HornyyPussy]

In Amber's case i was thinking less about death in more about her being forced into doing something she wouldn't normaly do, like in case Moonsong fails to help her but she gets approached by one of the villains who can actually help her. With the prospect of being sent away to Tokyo and her depression getting worse i could see Amber accepting such deal.

But that is just some wild musing of myself.

Nah, I'll keep believing in good!